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>> if she were texting me at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning, wanting to know if i could help her with her rent or help her with her car note, that doesn't mean that i was calling her, and the other thing about those phone calls, which we have requested that we be given access to them, my attorney and i, is what really was the pattern of those? all it says was 61 calls. i talk to a lot of people 61 times. >> 61 times? that's a heck of a lot of communication, isn't it? ginger white had her own explanation of all those calls and text messages and she said the communication continued even after the first harassment allegations against cain went public. >> just up until last week, that was my last contact with mr. cain, and, you know, the thing is, i can't imagine waking up one morning and deciding to come out with this if this was not true.

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