for a debate. he knows how to not get tired. i guess rick perry's excuse was that he was tired. it just makes rick perry look less ready for primetime. at the same time, as you said, it's not about texas because this is a much broader scale, and this is a much deeper level of scrutiny than he's probably used to. >> karen, really quickly, i want to talk to you about what the president said at the congressional black caucus over the weekend. i want to play a quick bite and talk about it on the other side. >> put on your bedroom slippers. put on your marching shoes. shake it off! stop complaining! stop grumbling! stop crying! we are going to press on! we've got work to do! >> is that the message that the cbc needed to hear from the president? >> i'll be honest, craig. i didn't love the take off your bedroom slippers because i think there are a lot of people who have been out there working pretty darn hard. and i think the feedback that the cbc got when they did their