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than carter was. carter was at a 30% approval rating in the gallup poll at this point and obama is in the low 40s. this is the point when the presidents who win re-election begin to really build their numbers. this is when reagan was coming up, when clinton was coming up, soon they would be over 50%. in pretty good economies. president obama faces a situation where he needs to improve his numbers, even though the economy's numbers we know won't get very much better by election day. this is about the economy. >> yeah. >> he is likely to have on election day. >> that's the thing that's doing it, chris. it's not about the poll numbers. it's about the reality numbers. it's about the unemployment number and the median household income number. it's about the poverty rate number that you were just talking about. it's even -- you know, even the college board came out yesterday to say that the reading scores were lower than they have ever been. >> what do you make of that? everybody here is a parent or a student watching is trying to figure out why there's a connection. >> why there's a connection, why would s.a.t. reading scores go down? i'm curious if there's a connection.

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