and i have to believe that while this was a wisconsin fight, and wisconsin grassroots work hes and teachers really let it, that a visit from the president simply saying that he believed in fairness, he believed in collective bargaining, he believed that it is valuable to keep an open and free government, not one with late night meetings and violations of open meetings laws, i think a statement like that while seen as partisan by his critics would have been a rallying cry for people who respect and value his leadership. >> i can't help but think there's a disconnect between the white house and what's happening in the heartland. how could they miss -- >> it's terrible. >> do you think there's a disconnect? >> it's a terrible disconnect, ed. and it's not a disconnect purely of coming or going, and things like that, there's also an intensity factor. in wisconsin, you had people who literally couldn't sleep at night. they stayed up late, they made calls, wrote letters, knocked on doors, passed petitions, and
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