congress' hand? >> well, again, it might be more negotiable to negotiate this with you, but i can't get into a lot of details, but first, you have to agree enob the spending cuts and the process for the committee and make sure it is essential to get the debt ceiling extended, and then make sure that whatever enforcement mechanism is number one one, if were triggered the country could live with, but strong enough to compel folks to act. you will see that this is a healthy debate. i think that the uncan be tcoun learned a lot about our debt and deficit, and where the president stands is where the american people stand. if we are going to do another set of debt ceiling negotiations, it has to be a -- >> well, there is no tax increases in this. the president said it had to have tax increase and had to be balanced and that is not in the deal. >> well, this committee is charged with coming up with additional debt reduction and there is no way to do it without smart entitlement reform and tax