that's going to be coming in the door and that there's a chunk of change that's going to be cut? >> disgusting. i mean, i think that's a very unfortunate feature of the reid plan. but i mean, at least the fact is, we do recognize -- we are realistic, but the fact is, we have always believed, progressive caucuses always believe that the way we get out of this crisis is that we get more people back to work. we put american infrastructure, american manufacturing, we get americans building bridges, roads, light rail, all these things that need to be done, all across america, and that is the way we get ourselves out of this deficit situation, is we put americans back to work. >> well, for the reid plan, that really is the devil in the details. how far does $2.7 trillion go and how would that affect job creation? because that has been the real problem right now. >> that's the question. i mean, that's why when you ask me, are we ready to sign up for it, i say, we'll see. it meets our basic criteria, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's what with we think is