something, half a percent here and you take out some dollars that save some money off of companies who provide an x-ray machine. outside of that, if he destroys it in any form in terms of the foundation that was done in the 1960s with lbj and fdr in the 1930s, it's a bad day for the democratic party and a bad day for america. >> and why don't the republicans go along with what the american people want. clearly every survey out there shows they don't want the big three to be a part of this. >> well, there are plenty of americans who understand the big three are not sustainable. the only way to fix the problem in america financially is to make changes to the big three. we're not talking about decimating them. we're talking about making changes. anybody who tells you those programs are sustainable is a liar. and a lot of americans are not that stupid. >> social security is not sustainable? >> of course not. absolutely not. why would the age have been 65 to begin with. why? you weren't expected to live