>> why is he trying to do that? why does he think he's right? >> i think he lives in his own planet. i don't know. i think that he is -- he's somebody at some point, boehner, they're obviously a little busy right now, going to bring them together and say look, just stop this. i think. >> i think he -- >> i don't know what you're talking about back pedalling. >> another congressman we've talked about named anthony weiner, ex-congressman. it's easy to fall victim to, you're the darling of the talk shows, you seem to raise a lot of omoney. people think you're bold, you seem to be unique. and the reality is you're just out there in la-la land. what seems to work for a while can really backfire. this kind of talk just doesn't work. >> all righty, let's talk about the debt ceiling for a moment. is the president going to cave? >> well, if any of the three, the dig bree, medicaid, medicare, social security, are touched at any significant level, i'm not talking about