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photo-op and a thing to talk about. they also say that it's good to be with the president in any kind of setting to try and get some of these issues on the table but no surprises where people stand. the dividing line is pretty bright here, chuck and savannah. >> hard to see how they get a deal. thank you. > who do we think the dog is and who is the pony? >> dogs and ponies, i don't know. in other news senator kerry is preparing to travel to pakistan to help ease tensions with military and intelligence officials there. they are still chafing under public criticism following the discovery of osama bin laden in their backyard. nbc's peter alexander is live for us in islamabad. what's the latest, peter? savannah, first of all, congratulations to you. his adult sons have come forward lashing out at president obama effectively saying that he is guilty of an assassination of an unarmed man that is in violation of international law. these words specifically come from bin laden's fourth son

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