it's -- there is not an election this year but this is when they really do the dirty work after the election. this is just a textbook classic example of how they operate. but are they making headway? are they making a difference? is it getting harder for wage earners? >> absolutely. with the wave of republican lawmakers swept into office, last fall, the setting was there for these think tanks to go after the new republicans to sway them to influence them to lobby them to pass these kinds of bills. that's why we're seeing dozens of collective bargaining bills out there today. >> i bet there are viewers out there tonight wondering do the liberals have anything like this cooking? i mean, there is move on.org, precripple c, organizing for america and all this stuff but they are not on this level are they? >> not at all. this is straight from the same conservative idiosyncrasy yo logs that founded the heritage foundation, straight from reagan. the left doesn't have an answer to this but as we're seeing might be wise to. >> andy crowell, "mother jones"