risk -- we have seen democrats do this back in 1982, privatizing social security, cutting social security, that sort of thing. this is not a hard one to either attack/demagogue, depending on your perspective. i think it was probably a bad time for him to do it. >> reading from one of recur recent columns since this was first proposed, you wrote most voters want to see the federal budget balanced and spending cuts. sure, apple pie and all that. but they don't want social security, medicare or medicaid touched. and, oh, yes, they don't want taxes increased. house republicans are not just pushing the envelope, they're soaking it with lighter fluid and waving a match at it. you think that the bottom line politically for all of the praise for paul ryan, for coming out and at least tackling stuff that nobody else wanted to deal with is there is going to be a conflagration politically from it? >> i think there is a huge learning curve here for the american people. a lot of people seem to think