region fight for liberty so that these governments are less hostile toward the united states. there are so many reasons for us to be here and show leadership and i argue republicans and democrats ought to stand together with the president to make sure this thing ends well for the united states. >> are we in a conflict that has at its core a vital u.s. interest. i pose that question to secretary of defense on this program last week. this is what he said. >> is libya in our vital interest as a country? >> no, i don't think it's vital interest for the united states. but we clearly have interests there and it's part of the region which is a vital interest for the united states. >> part of that interest as the president outlined in a speech that a lot of people thought was about libya but about something of obama doctrine was humanitarian. you read the papers this morning about 800 civilians killed. how do we warm a policy around when we intervene and whether we don't if this is not a war that's in our interest? >> i argue it is in our interest