young people into housing, buying houses, spending money, building houses, fixing houses, the economy would boom again, and nobody looks at the real problem. they talk this religion stuff from kantor. >> there's two issues, one that exactly what robert just said and i guess you said, republicans' base is extremely committed to the budget cuts, but the public at large is into jobs. that's their big priority. they have to pretend that cutting the budget will create jobs. the problem for president obama is he is in a position where there is this -- there's kind of a diffuse feeling in the country that, you know, that there's gotting to belt tightening. i think that's not just republicans saying that. that's something the public at large -- >> is it economic sense or religion? is it just good old horse sense? is it economics we're talking about? when we say cut the budget -- >> i don't think there's any question. >> will it create a better