you signed a letter basically denouncing what some of these executives did at npr, the stuff that was caught on tape. explain why or why not npr should get federal funding at this point. and, frankly, are you expecting that you'll be looking at where they will not have it? >> let me take the first question first. explain why npr should get funding. a lot of people want to make this about npr, we are talking about the national corporation for public broadcasting. it's bigger than npr. npr is a series of member stations, but it's also about public television and it's about smaller stations in particular. what was stated by ron shiller is an opinion, and it quickly turned into something that is fact, and it's to the established fact. one in five member stations