taxes. more people are getting services for the government 37 we have to be careful we don't go in the direction that ireland and england went into where they slashed budgets during their session and axccelerated the downward spiral. which side are you on? if you think it's smart to cut air traffic controllers, when you probably want to vote republican in the next congress. >> look, the tax rates, if it went back to the clinton levels, the rich would get about 3% or 4% of money over $250,000. or we could cut the other. pras like food safety. who wants to cut food safety? it's crazy. let me focus on the jobs, though. the center for american progress numbers just now, about a million jobs lost if the spending cuts go into effect. i know they're a progressive think tank. do you think those numbers are accurate? if they are, you guys should be screaming that from the roof tops, shouldn't you? >> yeah, i think they are accurate. and let me explain to your viewers why it is. when you cut the services, there's a knock-on effect.