these have life -- look, if this is going on five years from now, we're all gone. the idea of unemployment benefits at this level are going to be extended indefinitely is just not true. >> this isn't the problem. >> this is not structural. this is something that doesn't add to the long-term debt to gdp. what it does do, it has an economic positive impact in terms of economic growth. >> you got here in '72, right? >> i did, january '73. >> 29-year-old kid, 30 i guess by january. talk about how things have changed because as you know every day on this show we talk about how at least since clinton was elected, the second a president gets elected, the other side tries to delegitimize that president from day one. you've seen that from the outside since early '93. have you been shocked since you got on the inside at just how