failing, absolutely. you read any discussion of these inside -- look at woodward's book which details -- day today they didn't have a plan, no clue, no strategy. >> no plan, no clue. >> all they'll do is kick it forward. >> we had richard holbrooke come on the show doing what richard had to do because it was his job, defending afghanistan, saying just wait -- and then the next week the woodward book came out saying richard was against it, the vice president is against it. mike, they know afghanistan is a failed war. they cannot win. but barack obama does not want to be slammed by republicans before the 2012 election as being weak on defense. they know it's failing. >> it's called lack of leadership and lack of courage. you want to reduce the deficit at a practical level, start eliminating 100,000 troops in afghanistan. that's one small step. >> $100 billion a year for nothing.