my grandmother worked in the plant. hi student loans. michelle's dad worked for the government. you know, the -- those are the kind of values, the mainstream american values that he was talking b.at first i said, my gosh, here we are more than a year and a half into his presidency, why does he have to recite this all over again. >> yes, well, he has to. >> and the reason is because he has to. >> right. >> he has to do it. >> well, they have lied about him. >> they have called him a muslim, an alien. they have got everything in the world. they got a quarter of republicans now believing he's an american, a quarter believing he's the religion he says he is, christian. >> and people like haley barbour who know better saying, well, i'm just not sure about his background. >> i'll get to it, howard. my father got us to be middle class by the gi bill, like most people watching. >> me, too. >> and that's how we all got to the middle class, and number two, i went to school on an nda loan from the government. >> me, too. >> you, too. this is pretty american stuff here. anyway, thank you howard fineman, and thank you bob