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amounts of environmental damage. these rigs are not supposed to eople died.are not supposed to that's a real tragedy, but the fact is, we're not seeing the kind of environmental damage that -- and if people are depressed it may be because people are making such a big deal about this environmental damage. >> i made a big deal about it and may continue to because i fear for it. i haven't hyped it for any reason. i have worried about the damage to our environment too, especially north america is the only one we've got, this land mass and these waterways. and i have worried about it and this is the first positive report i've gotten. that's why i have been concerned, not because i want to hype this baby because there's nothing to hype about it. it's been a tragedy from day one. bernard charbonnet, thanks for joining us. michael, thank you. i guess congratulations if you turn out to be right. if you're right, that's great news. up next, the scenario that keeps the country's intelligence community up at night. a nuclear attack either by a rogue nation or loose nukes in the hands of terrorists. how real a threat is it, how imminent.

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