it's, of course, bankrolled and promoted and supported by kelsey grammer, you know, the old guy that sat at the bar in "cheers." i thought that guy was kind of goofy. this is kind of goofy, too. joan, what do you think? >> i think john stjon stewart a stephen colbert are shaking in their boots. kelsey grammer brings audience. i'm frightened by it. i know you are here at msnbc too. look, i'm surprised there hasn't been another fox rip-off. they have been successful, ed. we don't like it but they have been successful. i just don't see this. this sounds cheesy to me. >> here's grammer commenting on the whole thing. here it is. >> things that just aren't right. big government. more taxes. group hugs. cats on leashes. hmm. running in place. flightless birds. grown men tickle fights.