ally, israel. by the way, it hurts palestinian jobs, too. we talked about that last hour on "outnumbered." >> here's the things, these are people going to israel. i've been to israel. anybody who's gone and has this experience, they learn more, they meet people. we can only be more positive. if these people are going to israel to try and spread views -- >> harris: it's a different thing than you and i visiting the gaza strip. >> they are going to meet people in israel and have that experience. i think we have a free exchange of ideas in this country and this is further clamping down on that. i don't think that's positive. be one healthy? >> they have every right to express their anti-semitic views, and it's only going to hurt the larger democratic party. i think that's frankly embarrassing to be heard from any member of congress. this is not a free speech issue. this is an issue of them trying to enter a country as a