jillian: do this in 10 years? >> well, again because she's being a little bit of a realist knowing you can't do it overnight, bernie sanders' plan 4 years is not practical and realistic, by giving it 10 years that's longer than presidential terms, it's never going to come forth but has to put something in the debates, for me she's all politics and i don't really see this as clear plan. it does -- she says that -- she raised her hand illegal immigrants should be covered however that's not in her plan whatsoever, we have no idea what she officially stands on that and she never said how she will rein in cost, joe biden said at the debate that it'll cost $30 trillion and she didn't rebut that but nowhere in her plan are dollar signs, we don't really know, it's a loose outline. many go to former vice president joe biden and, you know, i don't want to say that he wants to build on the affordable care act because he wants to have biden
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