made dnc establishment democrats who might into supporting biden on shaky ground, she gave them safe ground to reconsider. she made the case that she can prosecute a veteran political figure which is exactly what she pledged to do with president trump. >> interesting point that the vice president said he became public defender while kamala harris became a prosecutor. she had a stiller night. joe biden started the debate framing at lens through donald trump taking him one-on-one and i would love to see senator harris see that more. >> i would love to get the takes on who is biggest winner and biggest loser, max, i will start with you? >> julian castro and kamala harris, i'm looking to get more exposure in the next couple of