it is true most people believe in 2020 hispanics will overtake african-americans as the second largest voting bloc so it is a critical very important vote for the president, important for everyone running for reelection. the president has not fallen for this trap that there is no way to win hispanic votes if you believe in border security. >> doesn't surprise you he pulled the same numbers we've seen from republicans for the past 20 years? >> actually doesn't. one of the greatest myths political consultants have sold republican politicians is that it is impossible to win support for hispanics if you take a hard line on border security. it is not true. the polling has never supported that. this is ally purported by business interests throughout the year and it became republican dogma.