employer who doesn't give a damn about your life circumstance. i'm sorry, snowflake, employers are in the business to make widgets, products, earn money, the world is tough, get used to it. looking at this candidate, what's he thinking, sean? is this an adversity score? or is it a smart kid. >> sean: great analogy, great point. if you had the adversity and you overcame it, the odds in that situation you're describing is describing, geraldo, in an interview, i want the street fighter that's hungry. >> sure do you. but the admissions officer who interviews the kid and under stands the circumstances and the facts of that kid's life -- >> sean: the military kid who lost his father. >> or the kid who grew up in abject poverty, hungry, had damages -- >> sean: i would take it into account in that process not this. >> when you objectify it and make it a math situation where