neil: and the detention centers are simply overwhelmed and for that that's an emergency. and now, the democrats, of course, have been saying, not enough of one to warrant building an expensive wall or declaring emergency to get your way on the wall. what do you say to that? >> i say they're ignoring the data. that's what makes me angry when i talk about this. the data is clear, every place they've built a border barrier, illegal immigration has declined significantly and drug smuggling proved 100% effective. is it the answer of all answers? no, it's one tool that will make the illegal groups be funneled to border patrol so they make sure to catch every one of them. what we've got to understand, and what people aren't talking about, what makes it a national security issue is that the cartels are managing these groups and sending large family groups, 100, 200, 300 people to the sector and ties up border patrol assets and moving narcotics and bad people to the unmanned sectors. that's what's dangerous, we
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