english, and avoid criminality. because we would never require that for permanent residence. there is a higher standard. >> laura: all right, well, from mont menendez to dick durbin -- dick durbin said, give them a chance to earn their way into citizenship, learning english, the basics, the best bite, "the basics of american history." that is dick durbin. i'm telling you, guenther, i think immigrant activists actually serve themselves and their cause if they said, you know, that is a great point. let's learn american history. that's not trash it. >> it's not an issue to learn english. to become a citizen, you have to take a test. the test is in english on the test is about american history. >> laura: univision, which is pretty well produced, by the way, univision, telemundo, they have made it much easier to live in the united states, as having a treatable living abroad in europe, you have english speaking to become my spanish speaking television.
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