taxes, take a look at the carter era going into the reagan eesra. reagan cutting taxes, deregulating. that's where you create more jobs, an economy growing at 3.5%. i think that's a lesson we should take away. you want to tax the rich at 70%, you won't get the economic growth and by the way, the wealth creation for everybody you saw during the reagan era, right? neil: you know, with the shutdown now over, i hope over, what happens next three weeks is anyone's guess, but you know, the market soared through this. we are showing the dow, nasdaq, s&p 500, russell 2000, all up double digits. >> yeah. it wasn't fazed even as things got more heated. neil: why? >> you look back at history, at shutdowns over time, the market isn't really fazed by -- neil: this was a long one. >> usually the deepest down is 1%, and it comes back up 1%. neil: why? they don't care? >> no, because they know it's going to be resolved. you can't operate with the government shut down for years on end, right?