second. he is proud to have this fight. where we are in the back and forth. the ball is in their conner. we made them an offer yesterday afternoon. senate democrats have the ability right now to open the government and agree to the deal. that is the where the back and forth is. chris: you don't see him flipping when he says i'm proud to shut down the government and now he -- >> they come back to something, ball in our court is different dynamic. right now the democrats the ball is in their court to what they are. chris: you have your own record when it comes to immigration and border wall. here is what you said as a 2015 a congressman. >> sure. is it necessary to have one, sure? would it help, sure? to build the darn fence and have that end of immigration, is absurd and childish for someone running for president to take that view. chris: if building a wall is
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