year, and i'm still scratching my head how oversight and judiciary got up against this wall. going forward, would be ever hear from the former president? is the only other person standing on a plane with her, that she wishes she had a door lock to keep out, now. >> i wouldn't hold my breath on that. i think, harris, it's kind of brilliant on their part. they are so good at this. both clinton and lynch have talked about how the optics are bad, they both appreciated that the optics were bad. they say that enough times that we say to ourselves "gee, this really looks bad." the problem isn't that look bad pair that's one big part of the problem. the other thing is, what actually happened? there is almost no discussion about what happened, they are, because we can't penetrate that. the other things that happen here that aren't good for that after that meeting lynch really

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