be a nationalist and pursue your own interest is a betrayal of moral values. >> laura: all right, this is what christian whitten is saying about macron's commentary. let's watch. >> i think macron within the e.u. is under a lot of pressure. frankly, germany is willing to cut a deal on the trade changes that trump wants, to lower tariffs across the board. macron doesn't like that. he doesn't like having to spend more on the military. he doesn't like the fact that italy, along with britain, peeling away from the e.u. not quite as directly. eastern europe not as kosher on the e.u. so a lo it of these things just aren't going the way this former investment banker would like them to go. >> laura: if globalism of the sort that macron loves, and internationalism, was helping the average german or frenchman, there wouldn't be a backlash against internationalism or globalism. there would be let's do more of it.
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