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story and not getting the story, and because he's going viral, that's good for ratings, that's good for business. here's the thing. cnn is now trailing behind the hallmark channel. in this new cycle -- and they are losing viewers a year over year. this is a gift to cable news, this new cycle. if you are not gaining in ratings and the trump administration that has been unpredictable and quite frankly insane at times in terms of all the information coming out, then you are doing something wrong. >> brian: the next chapter was at 8:00 that same night, he goes back to the white house and find out his press pass has been deactivated. he goes back and does an interview with anderson cooper. did the white house hurt themselves by making him more of a martyr than when he left? the story was jeff sessions not jim acosta appeared in the night ended with jim acosta. >> used the word martyr and that is exactly right. jim acosta is very accomplished at playing the victim, being a victim of circumstance, being in these situations.

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