china's bad acting but let's face it china has been stealing hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our industrial secrets as well as our military secrets and that is really i think the biggest threat that we face in terms of our relationship with china. maria: so how long will this fight go on and what are the implications if we continue pushing back on china? what are the implications for the economy, for people, because we know that they've been steal ing for all of these years but they won't admit it. are tariffs the answer here to get them to behave differently? >> well, our vulnerability to cyber taxes is going to go on as long as people use computers. i tell young people if you want job security, get a degree in cybersecurity. so again, i think the good news is because of public awareness, the gap between those on offense and those of us on defense is quite honestly narrowing and i think this administration appropriately is studying the fact that potentially going on offense ourselves as part of the
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