discovered he was a big time drug dealer and had a lot of women. was that because of the phone or was he a bad boyfriend? >> he was a bad boyfriend. i don't blame the phone. bad people are going to do bad things regardless of the technology. but i saw how easy it was to have a separate life in your phone and have it in the wrong hands. the phone was no longer just there to make phone calls. and that technology can sometimes get away from us. sometimes you are interacting face to face and you realize there is an accountability for what you say and do. when you get into the phone space you say things in a way you would never say in person. howie: this is all very fascinating. thank you so much. i hope you will come back. after the break, the troubling mystery of a saudi columnist. and some of the media blaming
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