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women? >> i certainly understand. if you have a major loss like that, certainly you're going to be upset. but i think it's an error and misleading to use isolated incidents to overlook compelling evidence. as an example, between 1990 and 2013, the immigration population in america more than tripled, but the violent crime rate actually went down by 48%. so the numbers really say that we don't have a problem with immigration. >> yes, we do. >> just the opposite. those the numbers. >> if these people weren't here illegal, those two kids would be alive today. >> stopping immigration is not going to make accidents go away or crimes go away. >> the united states of network does more than any country on the face of the planet. so don't tell me that we're going to stop. nobody's ever suggested that,

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