there is criticism of his -- shep, look, yes, he speaks to his base and riles up his base. there's a lot of voters in the united states. he has to be careful of antagonizing the voters. >> shepard: generally speaking, we say base but we're talking about 30, 35% of the population. are they being misled about what the justice department and what the media are doing? >> we've talked with the president about the president not always being on speaking terms with the truth. you decide whether or not that's being misled. he at least is putting a big, big spin on ball for them. the broader public has to evaluate that. the broader public may not be part of his base and he may be alienating them. the eagles are in philadelphia, pennsylvania he won but not by a

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