people -- at the end of the day, it has nothing to do with donald trump for the success of hi campaign. >> harris: you have such a unique position that you have held. if you are actually with a campaign so you might know the answer to this question. could president trump have won a nomination without paul manafort? was manafort that necessary that if some vetting had said he's not our guide, you could have moved without him? >> president trump could've won that nomination without anybody else. i say it all the time. he was 99.9% of that campaign and everybody else had a .01%. let b clear because i there the day that we interviewed paul for the first time. never did the fbi or any other government agency ever contact me and say we have some concerns about paul manafort, his previous business dealings, we had a five application warrant up and running. him coming to the campaign or after the campaign. never did a government agency say that paul manafort has potentially been doing things