in north korea. >> well, i think that is right. whenever there is a change in the leadership of a government department, if the workforce inside the department has been soured on the previous occupant of that office, then the new person regardless of what policies they necessarily pursue, if they take symbolic steps to look like they are open and new and different they have a honeymoon. we will see how long the honeymoon lasts but pompeo is a particularly effective operator in my opinion. not to say anything about rex tillerson. >> dana: right. >> but pompeo is really effective. he sensed he has an opportunity and he has taken symbolic steps to allow him to grab the opportunity. look, number one in his class at west point and harvard law grad. a smart operator and he is taking advantage of the moment he's got. >> i liked it last night when he said he had dunner with the north korean -- dinner with the north korean counterpart a reporter asked what was on the menu and pompeo said american beef. as in obviously that would be the case. while we wait for pompeo let
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