candidates and test their own messaging. i think you will see all sorts of different messages. inside versus outside, populist versus progressive coming from the potential 2020 candidates. this is not a bad time to test it out. so long as they remember that the first task at hand is winning in 2018. >> dana: in the meantime, david, i have 40 seconds left, is that you actually have conservative policies looking like they are getting results. like if you consider the economy for one. that is a big one. do the republicans have the edge there? >> i think they do. if you look at the democrats practice of identity politics is not their problem. promising something to every group. what they are looking for in the midwest is to find something to promise this group. that is not the problem. if you look at dan ball and the zito book, the problem is they consider them second class citizens and deplorables. as hillary clinton said. they are not going to get far if they consider them second-class citizens. >> dana: in that piece it