los angeles. it was there he first drew national attention. it's an amazing career arc when you think about it, billy graham born just 4 miles from where i'm standing. he was the son of cow farmers, he would have to start milking those cows at 2:30 in the morning. to think he went from there to the places he's gone, he's preached in front of nearly 200 million people personally, and besides his ministry, he was also a close personal friend to several presidents. and was really a spiritual advisor as well. he was able to speak on a lot of changes in the u.s. especially changes in the media. but then began my began a radio show for about half an hour eack and he was gifted on the radio but it was really television