finances, so this doesn't just affect the military, the budget control act when it talks about the sequester. >> to engagement, end to military sequester. the majority of people would say that it is a win for the military, how does one not see it as that? >> i don't see it as win or lose for the military. we dealt with the government shutdown, we had one in 2013, this is a symptom of a deeper problem. our politicians are not representing us, not able to get things done in the military certainly suffering as a result of that, not the only institution suffering because of this, the american people are suffering. jillian: a deeper problem? >> it started to change a little bit, you saw some clapping about clapping at the state of the
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