assistant press secretary -- i don't know. is that the right name for him? >> he's a deputy press secretary ray, hogan gidley. >> shepard: he asked about oprah. all the talk -- we'll have more on this -- all the talk with oprah with a possible 2020 run nor the white house. the reaction to oprah. he said no. opponent would face a president quoting who has record-setting achievements. they're not too concerned about oprah. it's interesting. donald trump before he was president years ago said on both larry king live and once i believe with wolf blitzer that he would choose -- that he might choose oprah as a vice presidential running mate. that's not how time played out i i don't think that would happen. mike pence would be the running mate in 2020. here's what i can tell you. if it were a donald trump oprah win from contest in 2020, that would be one for the ages. >> shepard: yeah. billions and billions there. john roberts, thanks for the stretch. live on the north lawn. as we continue to watch the
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