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it as a swipe against president obama. it is too easy for the press to take swipes, and that is why the red visa. but so much of what president bush said there i heard him say when i was the press secretary 16 years ago, particularly about the discourse, he was very troubled by the discourse back then. remember, his critics called him a war criminal, and his instructions to the staff and the rest was to rise above it. it's nothing new for president bush. >> martha: in terms of tone, obviously the bush presidency had a very different tone -- both bush presidency is -- then what we are there is also no love lost between the bush family, and jeb bush that pretty beat up in the process of the last presidential election, and it seems, in some ways, that the tone that donald trump at the time brought to the competition was what helped him to win. i just want to show you this from last august, a debate with jeb bush and donald trump.

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