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revolution that you talk about on your show which is these are the actual matters -- issues that matter so much to the economy and to the people, and yet we seem unable to get them over the line. tax reform could be different. what do you think? >> well, let's just take health care first and take something very specific. even -- just this year, 2017, the pharmaceutical industry hass spent nearly $150 million on lobbying. so we've got tom price spending a million on plane trips, $150 million on lobbying. members of congress make the rules that affect their business. the consequence is higher drug prices for americans. the vote on repeal and replace obamacare, that comes down i think in the end to something else that's very swampy, but of a different nature, which is the individual political motivations. a brilliant column in the "wall street journal" today, the most powerful people in terms of implementing the president's

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