immigration is an economic benefit to the united states? are they lying or are they misguided? >> it's about redistribution. the elites on top obviously are the ones who benefit from the redistribution. the employers benefit from the reduced wages. and the american people, average americans, american workers, what used to be the middlee class, they get hurt. they are at the bottom. it's a complete scam, and everything about our labor force shifted to this postindustrial superpower information economy. suggests that massive illegal immigration tolerated on a long-term basis or chain migration that deskills the labor flow, gives the american people incredibly bad -- poorly served. >> tucker: sounds that way. when hear people defend it, what they're really defending is their own prerogatives. rich people, when they defend it, they are basically defending it because they are getting a lot out of it, but you are not. >> in the '80s, when i had hair for shampooing, everybody knew people who actually had relatives doing the work,ot the hard work. social distance has increased to the point where elites are