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not feel it was the right time to do it. to close after charlottesville, a difficult situation not only for the people in charlottesville but for all americans. that's why a campaign style rally, i didn't think it was appropriate. i thought at the time and i still do that that delay. we don't want to cancel the visit with the delay of the presidential visit was an appropriate request and would be an appropriate action by the white house. i am under no illusion that the president will take my advice. >> kat: president trump is not budging. big surprise there. doesn't say all right, i won't. >> brian: i don't know if they know this or not but he can't stop being president publicly because they had an incident two weeks ago. i think the mayor is out of control even requesting that he not show up. >> eboni: you can have strong

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