get what we need by an ordinary subpoena from a grand jury. that means that they think that paul manafort or his lawyer is somehow not being faithful or truthful. ainsley: is this a good thing for the president? do you agree with the people that have been on fox that say it's a good thing for the president in exonerates him? >> i disagree. this is a good thing for the president. told the federal judge there is some there there. don't know what it is. a federal judge would not authorize this extraordinary tool without something there. steve: it could be related to paul map for the's dealings overseas for decades. he has worked with other countries. >> it could very well be totally independent of the president. they want him to talk to them about the president. brian: when you put your hands like, this you are like one of those super friends. >> i'm trying to show a little authority. brian: it's working. >> you taught me to do this years ago up in radio where the cameras weren't working. by the way my iphone hasn't been, woulding. [laughter]

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