what do you think the possibility, what sort of probability that north korea will abandon this nuclear program in order to talk with the u.s.? >> guy: zero. of course, that's what you have to say and i would point out that diplomacy and antinuclear talks have resulted in a nuclear north korea, so that was a failed policy dating back decades to the clinton administration. here we are today where rex tillerson is coming out and saying if you give up your nukes, we'll talk and you'll be a player on the international community. kim jong-un's going to have no part of that which is why you're seeing missile tests for months, also saying we have some stuff to back up our words here, fyi in case you forgot. we can crush you if necessary. >> kennedy: i hope it's not necessary. that's the worst. where'd he go from here? at sarah huckabee sanders said all options are on the table. the secretary of state says we do want regime change.