school boards and the unions and people who invested in the status quo in the way of change and you took that on. i am interested in what that felt like. for you as a politician from the left, what did it feel like? >> i wasn't looking for a fight. but i grew up in a tough neighborhood and i wasn't afraid of a fight. i tried to partner for a couple years. but when there was opposition after opposition to anything that was new, we started to push back. steve: that's the kind of leadership i think you have got to see. otherwise it will all stay the same. >> this isn't left or right. this is the right thing to do for kids who without that kind of advocacy, we are not making enough progress. steve: totally agree.
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