reporters. those are firmly based on facts and figures and analysis. there was a leader bit of evidence that came to me after the school closed where a state legislator told me that a bank executive told him that the sanders office interfered with the loan and, as a result of that interference, the bank wrote the loan conventions and my conditions so stringently that the college failed. >> tucker: huh. so that is not even related to what i understood they claim to be, that jane sanders borrowed more than the college could hope to ever repay and, in fact, was not able to repay, and that constitutes fraud. is that true, do you believe? >> well, all right. so jane sanders bought a huge piece of property from the catholic diocese. in order to buy that property, she had to borrow $10 million, six and a half million dollars from the bank, about three and a half million dollars from the
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